>> well, i think the united states is already playing a role in sending fbi forces to help investigate, find out who was responsible. but i think the thing that was so striking about chris was that he would have wanted them to be brought to justice under a rule of law that reflected the transition libya has made from a truly autocratic state where justice was never guaranteed to one where you could see these people tried in a fair courtroom and sentenced. >> you knew him well. >> i knew him well. >> for how many years? >> at least 20. we go back a long way. he was a wonderful man who had a sense of the streets as well as the elites. and despite the security restrictions that limit so many diplomats, he was always willing to go out. he saw libya through all three transition phases. two years under moammar gadhafi, then the liaison ambassador. >> and he worked hard to get rid of gadhafi through these rebels? >> absolutely. and he has reached out and he really knows the streets. the libyan people. in the same way he's known in every place i've ever known him, he has been one who has reall